So I’m not in love with Gnome 3, I actually use Gnome Classic as a desktop. I’ve been having some issues with Classic view as well. So I went on an exploration trip for a new Desktop, I’ve tried Mate (Basically Gnome 2), Xfce, KDE, LXQt, LXDE and Cinnamon.
I decided to load them into a VM and tried QEMU/ KVM I couldn’t get it to allow internet connection, so I wound up using Gnome Boxes. I didn’t use VirtualBox or VMWare because the machine I’m using is pretty wimpy, and I was trying for lean and mean. I had tried both of them and because the computer I’m using has a severe case of slowness, they locked the machine (damn resource hogs anyway) or pegged my poor little CPU.
Either way, Gnome Boxes did the trick and allowed me to create VM images and separate installations of each Desktop environment.
I used Debian Bookworm’s net install “CD” to install most of the VM images I created.
So here we go with what I’ve found so far.
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Mate Desktop Environment
I like it, it takes me back to the good old days of Gnome 2. Probably because it is that, it’s a continuation of the Gnome 2 Desktop Environment project, actually.
I love the fact the menu is organized so far. I haven’t installed a lot of things yet so we’ll see if it changes as I add things.
Below is a Screenshot of the desktop and the Mate Terminal. Notice how the font colors change for directories and actually does it on words like for and other words found in programming languages.
Or as I like to call it; has a Linux style terminal instead of a Microsoft style terminal.
So I played around a little more with Mate, You can add things to the top bar (panel) and they appear on the left of the clock & Network Icons, I found a font I liked also, I had to go to wallpapersafari.com for the Dragon. Yes, Gnome / Mate could use some artists like KDE has (Heavy SIGH) someday they’ll get artists someday.
Anyway, the only thing I don’t like is you can’t center the clock anymore on the top panel, however; if I remember correctly, it was a royal pain to keep it there, so maybe they dropped the idea.
Xfce Desktop Environment
This DE (desktop Environment) has come a long ways since I used it last on Sun Solaris 8 and is pretty nice looking as well. By long way I mean like the distance from the Earth to Jupiter.
The menu is pretty good in organization, and they do the different colored text for Directories etc. as well. I don’t get the bottom bar/panel (?), but it still looks very nice. And it has a top bar that’s pretty functional, but if you add Widgets (or whatever they’re called) it doesn’t let you choose where, it just sticks them on the right-hand side (after the username) whether you like it or not (Pinko commie bastards anyway… hmm).
KDE Desktop Environment
It’s as close as you can get to Windows without actually running Windows. However; Plasma is very nice and seems to handle Graphics very well (it is on a Virtual Machine so it might not play nice on an actual machine).
I will give KDE two things:
- The wallpaper selection is AMAZING, I guess the artsy type use this DE.
- Their update tool should be the standard, HOLY TUNA IT IS NICE!!! It called “Apper” and uses “Discover” to manage it. If it’s not listed in there it’s one of three things:
a) You’re in the wrong category
b) It’s not available for your Distro
c) The software doesn’t exist.
I didn’t install Snap or Flatpak, so I couldn’t speak to that, but the organization, categorizing, and descriptions … OH MOMMY, I’m in HEAT!! Why oh why can’t the others do that!? The other part of this called “Discover” it has all the details about the apps:
I only have a couple of things to be nitpicky about,
1) When I was installing it, I received a Security warning about Encfs having multiple vulnerabilities:
2) The Application Launcher Icon (lower-left corner) they should have stayed with the “K” emblem and not whatever the thing in the lower-left corner is supposed to be.
3) The number of packages installed by default; 1,698 of them, the others I tried were around 1,200 – 1,250.
LXQt Desktop Environment
It’s okay, I like the fact LXQt gives Desktop Icons and it sort of allows customization, but not my favorite.
LXDE Desktop Environment
Well, I didn’t need a cold shower after this one either, but LXDE is not too bad. I’m not in love with the cascading menus (Can anyone say Windows 98? I knew you could) I actually did not miss that “feature” when it went away… at all. I didn’t remember how much I disliked it until I installed this DE, then I remembered what a P.I.A it was (but it’s still better than Windows 10’s “Menu”). And I really dislike where the “Leave” button is (aka Power button) on the lower right. Especially when the same options are in the app launcher (lower-left corner), let’s not visit the department of redundant actions from the redundant department of redundancy, please? And no top bar or any way to add it.
If you want a different Wallpaper than what comes with the installation, you’ll have to Google one up or have a Wallpaper site to get it from. Then again, you could go to KDE’s Web site and grab one of those too, I guess.
I was going to check out Cinnamon but after Mint with a Cinnamon/ Mate desktop I decided against it. I wasn’t very impressed with it, if it’s your cup of tea, more power to you but I wasn’t wanting more of it after about 2 minutes. But for the Linux newbie, definitely the one to use. If it leaves you baffled on how to use it, please go get a MAC (just kidding, don’t be going all ballistic over it).
I’m sure you’re wondering what I dislike about Gnome 3, well, I am thinking I’m going to switch to Mate. I like it better (I missed having a top panel that’s usable) When Gnome 3 is available for a Mobile device I’ll probably use it then.
Here’s the default installation and part of why I don’t like Gnome3.
So when you first sign in you get this screen, you can either click on a desktop or the application you want. You can also click on the 3×3 dots (I think it’s called a waffle?) to see all your apps, which looks like this:
From here you can either search for the application or scroll through them until you find what you need. It’d be good on a smartphone or other mobile device, but it’s absolutely horrid on a desktop.
It does have a normal “Gnome” backgrounds:
See my comments in KDE concerning artwork and wallpapers. Yes, Gnome could use some artsy types.
So basically, Gnome 3 has been converted (for better or worse) to a mobile desktop environment. Okay, great, but they forgot the desktop functionality completely and it sucks rocks.
I am currently using Gnome Classic, and it’s not all it’s cracked up to be either.
But it is more of a desktop environment than Gnome 3. Even with adding the Applications extension the menu is a horrid, disorganized mess:
There are things that are in 2 or 3 different sections as well as I can’t customize the menu to get it to where I want it (for example, SelekTOR is in 3 different categories, it really should be only in one of them).
So I’m probably going to go to Mate (it’s actually pronounced Ma-Tay as per the website mate-desktop.org), it seems to have more of what I want from a DE. I didn’t write this to discourage anyone from using whichever DE they want, I’m just throwing my opinions out there and giving my 2 cents.
Thanks for reading this, hopefully it was worth your time.
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